Akiro Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 English players, Recently we've had an influx of Portuguese speakers and while the Hitspark team is bi-lingual and multi-cultural, We understand your wish to be able to speak your language to communicate with one another. Unfortunately we have put in the the rules that all chat in the NinOnline chat-box on forum and in-game must be in English only, And since it's a rule the Community team must punish you according to the same rules that we are having to enforce. The main reason why we've chosen to take this stance on the matter is due to the fact that not one member of the community team can speak Portuguese and in order to give all players a experience free of grief or verbal abuse from other members of this community, We have to limit the languages that can be used. All rules can easily be found in the announcement part of the forums, or in mine or any member of this forums community team I will keep this post open so you guys can debate, And if a Portuguese member of this community can give me a full translation of this post it would be grateful - Akiro Community Manager Portuguese jogadoras, Recentemente tivemos um afluxo de falantes de português e enquanto a equipe Hitspark é bi-lingual e multi-cultural, Nós entendemos seu desejo de ser capaz de falar a sua língua para se comunicar uns com os outros. Infelizmente temos que colocar nas regras que todos os bate-papo na NinOnline chat-caixa no fórum que está desativado no momento e no jogo deve ser em Inglês apenas, e uma vez que é uma regra a equipe comunitária deve puni-lo de acordo com as mesmas regras que estamos a ter de aplicar. A principal razão pela qual nós escolhemos a tomar tal atitude sobre o assunto é devido ao fato de que não um membro da equipe da comunidade pode falar Português e a fim de dar todos os jogadores uma experiência livre de dor ou abuso verbal de outros membros esta comunidade, temos que limitar as línguas que podem ser usados. Todas as regras podem ser facilmente encontrados na parte anúncio dos fóruns ou em mina ou qualquer membro desta equipa comunidade fóruns Vou manter este post aberto para que vocês possam debater, e se um membro do Português desta comunidade pode me dar uma tradução integral deste post seria grato - Akiro Community Manager 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryCrack Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 21 minutes ago, Akiro said: Recentemente tivemos um afluxo de falantes de português e enquanto a equipe Hitspark é bi-lingual e multi-cultural, Nós entendemos seu desejo de ser capaz de falar a sua língua para se comunicar uns com os outros. Infelizmente temos que colocar nas regras que todos os bate-papo na NinOnline chat-caixa no fórum que está desativado no momento e no jogo deve ser em Inglês apenas, e uma vez que é uma regra a equipe comunitária deve puni-lo de acordo com as mesmas regras que estamos a ter de aplicar. A principal razão pela qual nós escolhemos a tomar tal atitude sobre o assunto é devido ao fato de que não um membro da equipe da comunidade pode falar Português e a fim de dar todos os jogadores uma experiência livre de dor ou abuso verbal de outros membros esta comunidade, temos que limitar as línguas que podem ser usados. Todas as regras podem ser facilmente encontrados na parte anúncio dos fóruns ou em mina ou qualquer membro desta equipa comunidade fóruns Vou manter este post aberto para que vocês possam debater, e se um membro do Português desta comunidade pode me dar uma tradução integral deste post seria grato - Akiro Community Manager 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 As a side note, we tried to support other languages, this did not work out. All we can do now is enforce it English only for the time being. Each translator we hired did not do as much as we needed as a volunteer, this is not possible right now to do and is not worth the time or resources. Como uma nota lateral, tentamos apoiar outras línguas, isso não deu certo. Tudo o que podemos fazer agora é aplicá-la apenas em Inglês, por enquanto. Cada tradutor nós contratamos não fazer tanto quanto precisávamos como voluntário, isso não é possível neste momento de fazer e não vale a pena o tempo ou recursos. I have updated the post to include your translation. @HarryCrack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryzen Posted April 5, 2016 Report Share Posted April 5, 2016 Português Eu sou brasileiro Falo português obviamente , tenho os meus 21 anos e mesmo assim n sei falar tao bem inglês , mas existem crianças no jogo (novatos) que precisam da ajuda de jogadores experientes para que possa desfrutar do jogo . O que tenho a dizer é que existe falta de respeito em nossa linguagem . por que estou dizendo isso? bem por que somos obrigados a falar uma linguagem que não sabemos já que nosso pais não fala inglês , então temos que ficar calados durante jogamos sem contato .... e se quiser falar algo temos que o usar o Google tradutor para que possamos aproveitar 1/3 do jogo . então por que não existe igualdade no jogo? por que os americanos não usam Google tradutor para traduzir o português da mesma forma que fazemos para traduzir o inglês ? tudo bem que brasileiro tem um fama meio ruim, mas existem pessoas boas também , acredito que possamos chegar a um acordo e se for por falta de suporte para ajudar um novato, cara vai existir brasileiros jogando e eles vão poder ajudar, mas fica difícil sendo obrigado a falar inglês English I am Brazilian Portuguese I speak of course, have my 21 years and still n not speak English so well, but there are children at play (beginners) who need the help of experienced players so you can enjoy the game. What I have to say is that there is a lack of respect in our language. Why am I saying this? well why we are forced to speak a language fit that we do not know already that our parents do not speak English, so we have to be quiet during play without contact .... and if you want to talk about something we have to use google translator so we can enjoy 1 / 3 of the game. then why not have equality in the game? why Americans use google translator not to translate the Portuguese in the same way we do to translate the English? okay that Brazil has a half bad reputation, but there are good people too, believe that we can reach an agreement and if it is due to lack of support to help a novice guy will play Brazilian exist and they're going to help, but it is difficult being forced to speak English . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiago Posted April 5, 2016 Report Share Posted April 5, 2016 10 minutes ago, fryzen said: Português Eu sou brasileiro Falo português obviamente , tenho os meus 21 anos e mesmo assim n sei falar tao bem inglês , mas existem crianças no jogo (novatos) que precisam da ajuda de jogadores experientes para que possa desfrutar do jogo . O que tenho a dizer é que existe falta de respeito em nossa linguagem . por que estou dizendo isso? bem por que somos obrigados a falar uma linguagem que não sabemos já que nosso pais não fala inglês , então temos que ficar calados durante jogamos sem contato .... e se quiser falar algo temos que o usar o Google tradutor para que possamos aproveitar 1/3 do jogo . então por que não existe igualdade no jogo? por que os americanos não usam Google tradutor para traduzir o português da mesma forma que fazemos para traduzir o inglês ? tudo bem que brasileiro tem um fama meio ruim, mas existem pessoas boas também , acredito que possamos chegar a um acordo e se for por falta de suporte para ajudar um novato, cara vai existir brasileiros jogando e eles vão poder ajudar, mas fica difícil sendo obrigado a falar inglês English I am Brazilian Portuguese I speak of course, have my 21 years and still n not speak English so well, but there are children at play (beginners) who need the help of experienced players so you can enjoy the game. What I have to say is that there is a lack of respect in our language. Why am I saying this? well why we are forced to speak a language fit that we do not know already that our parents do not speak English, so we have to be quiet during play without contact .... and if you want to talk about something we have to use google translator so we can enjoy 1 / 3 of the game. then why not have equality in the game? why Americans use google translator not to translate the Portuguese in the same way we do to translate the English? okay that Brazil has a half bad reputation, but there are good people too, believe that we can reach an agreement and if it is due to lack of support to help a novice guy will play Brazilian exist and they're going to help, but it is difficult being forced to speak English . por enquanto e melhor se acostumar ao ingles, e aos novatos BR que precisam de ajuda, venham até mim, eu posso explicá-los sobre o jogo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akiro Posted April 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2016 2 hours ago, fryzen said: I am Brazilian Portuguese I speak of course, have my 21 years and still n not speak English so well, but there are children at play (beginners) who need the help of experienced players so you can enjoy the game. What I have to say is that there is a lack of respect in our language. Why am I saying this? well why we are forced to speak a language fit that we do not know already that our parents do not speak English, so we have to be quiet during play without contact .... and if you want to talk about something we have to use google translator so we can enjoy 1 / 3 of the game. then why not have equality in the game? why Americans use google translator not to translate the Portuguese in the same way we do to translate the English? okay that Brazil has a half bad reputation, but there are good people too, believe that we can reach an agreement and if it is due to lack of support to help a novice guy will play Brazilian exist and they're going to help, but it is difficult being forced to speak English . Once we have the manpower the funds and the support available then and only then will we think of supporting the game in that way, Since this game is a MMO that anyone can connect from all around the world we understand we'll have others who do speak other languages or multiple of them like myself. As i've said in the post above i personally want to enforce the rules we have set out for this game and forum in order to give every single user here and all the future ones to come a fair place where they can have fun without being harassed by some of the other users. Yes it happens here as it does everywhere in the world sadly We've chosen to make English the main and only support language right now due to all of these factors Seth is American ( English ) I am British ( English ) And Rory is from Singapore (English) English is the diplomatic language that is supported all over the world English is the most used language in the world to date The entire Development Team knows English It'd cost us thousands just to hire the people to fully translate a game We're constantly changing the English text in game and would be pointless translating a game right now until their is a finalised script -Akiro, Community Manager 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natsuko Posted April 5, 2016 Report Share Posted April 5, 2016 You're also connecting to an ENGLISH game, so yes if you can't speak English then you'll have to use google translate. If an English person or Japanese person tried to play a Spanish or French game, they'll more than likely have to use google translate. Either learn the language a game uses or stick to games that are in your language if you're too lazy to either learn it or bother with translations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoJob Posted April 5, 2016 Report Share Posted April 5, 2016 3 hours ago, Akiro said: Once [...] -Akiro, Community Manager I would give anything to have the amount of patience and kindness in me that you obviously got :-D Giving a nice explanation where i would have raged horribly ^^ We are flying to space guys...Humand Living does not need portugese, german or spanish. We need 1 language in this planet. And this is gonna be english! So when the day comes and outer living lands here... we stand and speak united. How shitty would it be, if all Venus-Living has to land and live in brazil cause they accidently landed there first the time and never got to learn proper english? And i might have to hang out with those ugly guys from mars, cause they think german is an easy and funny language... ENGLISH! Thats the one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryzen Posted April 5, 2016 Report Share Posted April 5, 2016 2 hours ago, Natsuko said: You're also connecting to an ENGLISH game, so yes if you can't speak English then you'll have to use google translate. If an English person or Japanese person tried to play a Spanish or French game, they'll more than likely have to use google translate. Either learn the language a game uses or stick to games that are in your language if you're too lazy to either learn it or bother with translations @Natsuko so if this is the problem , why do not translate into google translator what a Brazilian talk? or that will be too lazy to learn .... not talk crap or something ridiculous like that, if you do not have ideas and better to be silent Note: the game in English is not a problem , the problem is not able to talk to another Brazilian in the same language fit Natsuko Natsu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natsuko Posted April 5, 2016 Report Share Posted April 5, 2016 Why? because this game is an ENGLISH game not a PORTUGUESE game i gave you a solution to the issue but your too dumb to see it and as Akiro said He wishes to have a level playing field for everyone you have no idea how easy it'd be for me to be racist or sexist to you in Japanese and you wouldn't know a thing about it. and since google translate isn't perfect it's easy to ban someone for a translation error when it gave a wrong translation *removed some rude things dont do it again -Akiro* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konahri Posted April 5, 2016 Report Share Posted April 5, 2016 3 minutes ago, Natsuko said: Why? because this game is an ENGLISH game not a PORTUGUESE game i gave you a solution to the issue but your too dumb to see it Thats exactly what i think everytime i see people saying stuff like "But I don't speak English, why do you force me to speak a language I don't know!" Solution: If you don't know the language this game is based on... don't waste your time here and use it as a motivation to.. LEARN IT. ' -' 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth Posted April 6, 2016 Report Share Posted April 6, 2016 We don't care if your English is the worst in the world, as long as you try to learn English. Having a Game Master for each language and moderating each language is beyond our scope. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nass Posted April 6, 2016 Report Share Posted April 6, 2016 @Staff Manager: The game is based on crystalshire developer edition. You can add a translator API to your game. As In http://www.vbforums.com/showthread.php?694105-VB6-Word-translation-through-Google-translation. Can't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth Posted April 6, 2016 Report Share Posted April 6, 2016 @Ken40891 the game is not based on Crystalshire Developer Edition. Our GUI is custom and the new one we use in our menu was the one Robin made for his latest update which was never publicly made available. We are slowly migrating to that. We are not adding a translate system in the game. It is not planned for the entire life of the game at the moment, it may change if the game becomes a lot more profitable although otherwise no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nass Posted April 6, 2016 Report Share Posted April 6, 2016 @Seth, If there are more players on the game, it becomes profitable. So If you have brazilian players too it'd be better. PS: I am from Morocco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth Posted April 6, 2016 Report Share Posted April 6, 2016 22 minutes ago, Ken40891 said: @Seth, If there are more players on the game, it becomes profitable. So If you have brazilian players too it'd be better. PS: I am from Morocco. Not true. A game can have a lot of players and not be profitable at all. We had a few thousand Brazilians register, but only a few of them actually donated. I don't want to support them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoJob Posted April 6, 2016 Report Share Posted April 6, 2016 15 hours ago, fryzen said: so if this is the problem , why do not translate into google translator what a Brazilian talk? or that will be too lazy to learn .... not talk crap or something ridiculous like that, if you do not have ideas and better to be silent How could you still dare to talk back like this? Obviously i do not want to put every word of foreign language posted in the game into the translator just to see if you are insulting me. But obviously i will not NOT do this too. It's gonna b e huge waste of time for everybody. So the only solution for this problem is to forbid other languages. simple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akiro Posted April 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2016 3 hours ago, Ken40891 said: @Seth, If there are more players on the game, it becomes profitable. So If you have brazilian players too it'd be better. PS: I am from Morocco. Refer to the entire first post it's not about money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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