Orgs that allow missing ninjas to not have ff with villages

[Kyreno]

With the new great org system it would be nice to have a better "Peace List" version of villages as well, so it would be nice if each village had a org that is managed by the kage,the org will give missing ninjas the ability to not have ff with the villagers, it could also allow them to spawn in the village they are allied with but thats not a must tbh.

[Boo]

I mean if you don't want ff you could just get a pardon.

[Crusade]

16 minutes ago, Boo said:

I mean if you don't want ff you could just get a pardon.

They want to live a double life and get Takumi privileges as a leaf ninja. knowing damn well what they do.

[Nagao Hideki]

6 hours ago, Cynic said:

They want to live a double life and get Takumi privileges as a leaf ninja. knowing damn well what they do.

Double life shouldn't be a thing as one is either part of a village or a missing nin. And while some may argue that "peace listing" rogues and removing FF may help the village in various ways, I tend to disagree. You can RP as a spy for a different village (e.g. let's say how Kabuto spied for Root and then Otogakure) but the fact that you can't attack or kill villagers because you're PL kind of kills the whole point as you're practically invincible even if you're caught red handed. Keeping in mind how Kabuto fought in the Suna invasion there'd be no point or excitement in spying since if a rogue with ill intentions gains the trust of a village they'll just abuse the system and walk away unharmed if a Kage doesn't take action in time. Also, the peace list is not really a thing outside of the Leaf which has already created confusion and cost quite a few battles, because we constantly have to check if someone's peace-listed or not before engaging. And here I have to agree with Boo as missing Leaf ninja could just get a pardon and be done with FF, while missings from other villages can make things work the way they used to and maybe not hop on and off the peace-list if they want to keep good relations with Leaf. If people happen to die in Leaf square due to a raid or in a spar with no med they can still respawn at Tanzaku for a small fee and waltz right back into the square. Bottom line is, I don't see any upsides to removing FF from PL players as it kills RP and would only result in the abuse of the new system.

[Kyreno]

1 hour ago, Nagao Hideki said:

Double life shouldn't be a thing as one is either part of a village or a missing nin. And while some may argue that "peace listing" rogues and removing FF may help the village in various ways, I tend to disagree. You can RP as a spy for a different village (e.g. let's say how Kabuto spied for Root and then Otogakure) but the fact that you can't attack or kill villagers because you're PL kind of kills the whole point as you're practically invincible even if you're caught red handed. Keeping in mind how Kabuto fought in the Suna invasion there'd be no point or excitement in spying since if a rogue with ill intentions gains the trust of a village they'll just abuse the system and walk away unharmed if a Kage doesn't take action in time. Also, the peace list is not really a thing outside of the Leaf which has already created confusion and cost quite a few battles, because we constantly have to check if someone's peace-listed or not before engaging. And here I have to agree with Boo as missing Leaf ninja could just get a pardon and be done with FF, while missings from other villages can make things work the way they used to and maybe not hop on and off the peace-list if they want to keep good relations with Leaf. If people happen to die in Leaf square due to a raid or in a spar with no med they can still respawn at Tanzaku for a small fee and waltz right back into the square. Bottom line is, I don't see any upsides to removing FF from PL players as it kills RP and would only result in the abuse of the new system.

If you are gonna take anime as an example for ff then even leaf ninja should be able to kill other leafs in safe zone.

Point is the org will be for trusted ppl only not randoms.

Peace list is not a thing in leaf only,other villages have it as well.

Spying is something that is inevitable in leaf,you dont need to get pl for that,just make a lvl 20 alt and spy your heart out.

Its not double life,its one life. Ninjas who dont feel right on the village they are born in will have the ability to pledge their loyal to a village of their choosing opening up more rp possibilities. Rping as a ninja who has taken asylum in another village and stuff like that.

And no you are not invicible, just like normal leafs who sometimes have to wait for the kage to be exiled,same goes for tge org members but as i mentioned earlier it will be only for trusted ppl,it wont be easy like pl to get into.

This would also solve the problem you mentioned that u habe to stop and check jf they are pl or not,now u dont have to do that since u cant attack them.

 

 

[Imhotep]

Too easily abused. All your elementals will roll Mist then go rogue and join the PL Org, easy pipes. Any wind user will roll Sand then go back to their village PL Org for Nados. Leaf will feel the GF harass when suddenly Mist raids with 10 GF/WM PL rogues. Etc, etc.

And what are the benefits really? The very low chance that someone new genuinely wants to switch villages without resetting? Because if it's not that, then it's just another way to increase mindless zerging. And there's enough of waiting for 15+ groups before stepping into DZ going on as it is.

Large group gameplay doesn't need to be any easier. Recently Sand and Akat were allied, before Akat disbanded. Joint raid/defense was one of the very few times where you actually had to use co-ordination to make a large group work. The usual Nin team-fight strategy of bash every AoE button you have (queue 4 EPs in a row), would get the second half of the group killed. That's how it should be.

[Kyreno]

1 hour ago, Imhotep said:

Too easily abused. All your elementals will roll Mist then go rogue and join the PL Org, easy pipes. Any wind user will roll Sand then go back to their village PL Org for Nados. Leaf will feel the GF harass when suddenly Mist raids with 10 GF/WM PL rogues. Etc, etc.

All villages win from this so whats the issue?

[Black Rain]

This is a horrible idea because it removes the exclusivity of each village.

Leaf players could all re-roll sand, be added to the peace list org and you would have a leaf zerg that does not have the characteristics of a leaf zerg (i.e. pipes, tornados, sand exclusive summons, etc)

[Kyreno]

2 hours ago, Black Rain said:

This is a horrible idea because it removes the exclusivity of each village.

Leaf players could all re-roll sand, be added to the peace list org and you would have a leaf zerg that does not have the characteristics of a leaf zerg (i.e. pipes, tornados, sand exclusive summons, etc)

That would just make the game more interesting and its not gonna be an unlimited amount of members,it will have a small  amount of slots 10>

[Seifer]

Learn from Temari and let people swap citizenship to whatever village they like.

[Kyreno]

1 hour ago, Seifer said:

Learn from Temari and let people swap citizenship to whatever village they like.

that would be awesome,but its not just temari,chojis wife as well.

[Imhotep]

Nin is a 3 faction game, with Rogue as the wildcard. The whole purpose behind factions is having separate identities to allow players to build communities and to identify with certain groups (their faction) over others.

If there is nothing unique about the village except the people you play with, why bother having villages at all? Delete the villages and increase org sizes to 300 and everyone just play what you like. That's where this leads if you follow this logic of "benefitting everyone" down to its conclusion.

[Kyreno]

2 minutes ago, Imhotep said:

Nin is a 3 faction game, with Rogue as the wildcard. The whole purpose behind factions is having separate identities to allow players to build communities and to identify with certain groups (their faction) over others.

Being rogue means that u can do whatever you want,so if you want to ally and help another village thats up to you.You can love a village and yet go rogue because of the current leadership so u decide to side with another village doesnt mean u have to force yourself to reset everytime leadership changes in a village.

[Seifer]

25 minutes ago, Imhotep said:

Nin is a 3 faction game, with Rogue as the wildcard. The whole purpose behind factions is having separate identities to allow players to build communities and to identify with certain groups (their faction) over others.

If there is nothing unique about the village except the people you play with, why bother having villages at all? Delete the villages and increase org sizes to 300 and everyone just play what you like. That's where this leads if you follow this logic of "benefitting everyone" down to its conclusion.

Orrrrr, it is like -- I do not know -- real life.

All countries have a mix of people from different origins.

[Nagao Hideki]

On 8/30/2021 at 8:53 PM, Seifer said:

Learn from Temari and let people swap citizenship to whatever village they like.

 

On 8/30/2021 at 9:55 PM, Kyreno said:

that would be awesome,but its not just temari,chojis wife as well.

So why not bind it to the upcoming marriage system? It would not only allow members of different villages to relocate but also provide a legitimate RP platform for them to do so. 

[Kyreno]

59 minutes ago, Nagao Hideki said:

 

So why not bind it to the upcoming marriage system? It would not only allow members of different villages to relocate but also provide a legitimate RP platform for them to do so. 

I don't like marriage

[Clockwork]