Leaf Needs A Weapon Like Other Villages!

[FireDuck6969]

Hello Guys,

I am FireDuck6969. I am wanted to make a suggestion about Leaf needing a special weapon to them like other two villages. I will talk about what it might be and when we need it.

 First of all, we need a weapon because the other villages have weapons that the non-villagers can't use. We need a balance between villages because Leaf is disadvantaged by both their passive which is Will of Fire(I don't Like) and don't have a weapon. People might say that Leaf's special mastery is gentle fist and they don't need weapons. My answer is everyone can access to fan if they are sand, no need to choose fan mastery same for pipe. Like a fire med can have fan or pipe according to their village. People just trap people by bubble and do their elemental combo. In Leaf, not everyone gets the pressure point buff.

 My suggestion for Leaf's weapon will be the Chakra blades that some members of the Sarutobi clan. I found it good for Leaf because in Naruto and Boruto anime Asuma, Konohamaru, and Mirai uses them and these people I counted are all leaf.  

 

  Blades: Unlocked at level 10 and requires 20 strength. It will not have the chakra power, but it looks like Chakra Blades. You wont be able form taijutsu moves

 Chakra Blades: Unlocked at level 35 and requires 80. Now, it will have the chakra and looks like only chakra added to Blades. This blades will be a little bit faster(have bigger damage certainly) and add 3 or 2 chakra points to the user. You wont be able form taijutsu moves

If this topic get a good shown interest, I am thinking of advancing the topic. Thanks for reading. And thanks for @Antar who encouraged me to write a forum. @Ueda @Erox

[Itsuku]

On 6/10/2021 at 4:22 PM, Erox said:

The thing is, Sand has a Fan for their Hidden Mastery, Mist has a Bubble Pipe for their Hidden Mastery, Leaf has Gentle Fist, so it would seem redundant to give them a weapon for a Mastery that doesnt use Weapons but rather their Fists.

That being said i would like to write a counter Idea!

Lets give each village a Specialty Weapon, Leafs could be Chakra Blades, Sands could be the Sand Gourd, Mists could be something like a Kusarigama (Sickle and Chain)

Give em some boxing gloves or brass knuckles

[FireDuck6969]

yeah and this makes the trade or market between players. People used to buy a lot of blanks, but the game is full of alts instead of people and lowbies

[LionGod]

15 hours ago, Nagao Hideki said:

It’s kind of disappointing to see that some people still live in this twisted reality where Leaf is packed to the brim with people and the village leaders can whip out 15+ shinobi any time of the day to raid, counter-raid or hunt.

It’s a ridiculous straw-man argument used whenever Leaf wants to have something done about either their passive, a new weapon or a bug that provides enemy nin an unfair advantage over the villagers. 

Truth is that, like @LionGod said, Leaf does not have that many players who are over 50 and are active on the daily, and our main numbers usually consist of new players who either: 

a) get bored of the game not meeting their expectations and leave

b) go rogue

c) reach lvl. 30 to finish the Land of Toads arc, then get bored of the dailies and the grind and quit

Despite our best efforts to keep new players in the loop, only a minuscule amount of these people make it to lvl. 50 and join the raids/ counter-raids, yet people see 5 lowbies grinding wolves and 3 lvl 50+ afking in square as “numbers”.

Believe it or not there are times when Leaf is a dead village too, and players have things to do irl, which shows whenever there’s like 3-4 active people on bi fighting a small group of pipe or fan users in the village for hours on end, because the others just can’t log despite seeing the ping due to either work, school or other irl obligations. Yet some people think of Leaf as this ever-so-powerful, dominating village which can conjure people out of thin air because all the other villages say so apparently and that somehow makes it true. 

In all honesty if we would want to ride the ‘...but Leaf has numbers’ wave, then we wouldn’t be asking for a new weapon, but rather petitioning staff to fix and re-add the Shadow clone jutsu (it is a Leaf Hidden Technique after all RP-wise) as a Leaf exclusive just so that we could in-fact conjure up people from thin air as many other villages seem to claim.

This being said, while we could pay more attention to our lowbies, I think that ‘Leaf having numbers’ has become a pretty irrelevant argument by now and people who use it to be counter-productive in discussions would be better off not saying anything at all. But since I’m in no position to tell anyone here what to do, I’ll just say that these arguments don’t hold much substance and are only proof of your ignorance and bias.

king with some facts

[Black Rain]

23 hours ago, Nagao Hideki said:

It’s kind of disappointing to see that some people still live in this twisted reality where Leaf is packed to the brim with people and the village leaders can whip out 15+ shinobi any time of the day to raid, counter-raid or hunt.

23 hours ago, Nagao Hideki said:

I think that ‘Leaf having numbers’ has become a pretty irrelevant argument by now

My deluded friend, the argument of "leaf having numbers" doesn't only mean you have a lot of numbers in your raids. 
Leaf having numbers is said because Leaf is by far (Yes by far) the most active village. What this means is that at any given point in the day the amount of numbers leaf potentially has access to is higher than other villages. Even if you have lowbies or afk people in square, at least you have the potential to pull numbers for defence, hunts, etc.

Case and point, Random screenshot from BB at random time during the day:

     2 Sandies and 1 Mistie total.

    10 Leafies.

You will see that this case is similar across all times during the day with occasionally the exception of primetime (which is about 1-2 hours across the day for each village)

 

[Imhotep]

Not only should Leaf get a weapon, every village should have multiple weapons and weapon specialization masteries. The game desperately needs a way to add variety to builds. Right now the only serious hybrid options are WMs. Sand's 40 Int WMs with a Crystal Fan switch is a good example.

Advanced will be a big update that brings lots of new options, but given that the precedent for tools is already set, I think it should be looked into sooner rather than later.

Off-topic: There's about 2-3 hours a day where the whole server is dead. 4-6 of prime time where every village can be active. In the remaining hours only Leaf, and sometimes Takumi Orgs, can put together a larger group. 3-4 vs 8+ is a frequent occurrence dealing with Leaf outside of prime time.

What's the deal with Leafies catching amnesia and forgetting they had a numbers advantage after every fight? Ya'll have consistent numbers. It's not a bad thing necessarily, but you do. 8 players, two of which are AFK, might not seem like a lot but it is when the other villages have 3 players between them.

[FireDuck6969]

 

20 hours ago, Enver said:

 

Hidden Sound

[Desecration]

Leaf shouldn't demand a weapon just because Sand and Mist have it, fan and pipe have a valid reason to be in the game, chakra blades doesnt. What should be pushed more (which I completely support) is for fan and pipe to be locked to their masteries to limit the use of said weapons, leaf bringing up the arguement "well they have one so give us one" doesnt solve the issue at all. Giving leaf chk blades will do absolutely nothing to counter pipe or fan as those two weapons will obliterate it at close range as your basically holding Z like a chk med while crystal fan and pipe can stun or snare them. That weapon being added will just lead to more complaints.

[Desecration]

On 6/12/2021 at 5:17 AM, Nagao Hideki said:

It’s kind of disappointing to see that some people still live in this twisted reality where Leaf is packed to the brim with people and the village leaders can whip out 15+ shinobi any time of the day to raid, counter-raid or hunt.

It’s a ridiculous straw-man argument used whenever Leaf wants to have something done about either their passive, a new weapon or a bug that provides enemy nin an unfair advantage over the villagers. 

Truth is that, like @LionGod said, Leaf does not have that many players who are over 50 and are active on the daily, and our main numbers usually consist of new players who either: 

a) get bored of the game not meeting their expectations and leave

b) go rogue

c) reach lvl. 30 to finish the Land of Toads arc, then get bored of the dailies and the grind and quit

Despite our best efforts to keep new players in the loop, only a minuscule amount of these people make it to lvl. 50 and join the raids/ counter-raids, yet people see 5 lowbies grinding wolves and 3 lvl 50+ afking in square as “numbers”.

Believe it or not there are times when Leaf is a dead village too, and players have things to do irl, which shows whenever there’s like 3-4 active people on bi fighting a small group of pipe or fan users in the village for hours on end, because the others just can’t log despite seeing the ping due to either work, school or other irl obligations. Yet some people think of Leaf as this ever-so-powerful, dominating village which can conjure people out of thin air because all the other villages say so apparently and that somehow makes it true. 

In all honesty if we would want to ride the ‘...but Leaf has numbers’ wave, then we wouldn’t be asking for a new weapon, but rather petitioning staff to fix and re-add the Shadow clone jutsu (it is a Leaf Hidden Technique after all RP-wise) as a Leaf exclusive just so that we could in-fact conjure up people from thin air as many other villages seem to claim.

This being said, while we could pay more attention to our lowbies, I think that ‘Leaf having numbers’ has become a pretty irrelevant argument by now and people who use it to be counter-productive in discussions would be better off not saying anything at all. But since I’m in no position to tell anyone here what to do, I’ll just say that these arguments don’t hold much substance and are only proof of your ignorance and bias.

Leaf suprasses any other village with the numbers of lvl50+ or lvl40+ ninjas they have online at any given time, Leaf numbers is a relevant arguement but not when it comes to village weapons. The valid arguement for village weapons is simply that Leaf's hidden mastery as absolutely zero need for one and yall should push more for village weapons being locked to wind and water to reduce use. Most people talk about high lvl ninja from leaf not even counting your lowbies lvl35 and below, that's just the plain truth. Leaf as the ability to pull at least 5-8 people most times of the day if needed while as sand mist sometimes struggle to pull that same number. That's the reality, leaf will be the largest village in game for the forseable future and yall wanting a village weapon cuz sand and mist have will literally lead tomore complain and wont fix a thing.

[Balcoin]

On 6/11/2021 at 7:53 AM, Nagao Hideki said:

Sure, Fan and Pipe are essential when it comes to Hidden Masteries but I think many are missing the point when there's talk of a Leaf exclusive weapon. The issue doesn't lie in Leaf being in need of a village-only weapon (although it would be nice to have Chakra Blades, and I believe @Spooks already made a post regarding this topic with some Leaf villagers doing pixel art for the Blades), but rather that Fan and Pipe are available to all in their respective villages and the very fact that they can be used by everyone does not only break RP (e.g. how can ninja who didn't master Wind / Water release wield a fan or use a pipe?) but also puts Leaf shinobi at a disadvantage when fighting Sand or Mist (e.g. cancel ability of Fans / Mist elementals relying on bubble-snare combos) which makes fighting these villages frustrating to say the least due to the abundance of Fan / Pipe users. 
If one were to even the field, they'd have to (and this has been stated and ignored countless times before) lock Fan and Pipe to their Hidden Masteries. This would not only balance PvP but also restore RP as it would decrease the number of people using hidden weapons without the proper chakra nature and prevent the abuse of Fan / Pipe perks in combat.
Regarding the Specialty Weapons: Adding these weapons into the game wouldn't really solve anything as long as Pipe and Fan are not locked to their respective masteries, since it would not change the status-quo at all. Sand would now have Fans and the Gourd, Mist would still abuse the Pipe and get a Kusarigama to boot and Leaf would get the long-awaited Chakra blades only to realize that nothing changed and the disadvantage in PvP remains the same. 
Bottom line is: If Chakra Blades were to be added without locking Pipe / Fan to their masteries it would only be fair that Leaf receives them without Sand and Mist getting upgrades due to the aforementioned reasons.

I agree but leaf was at a disadvantage even b4 those weapons became an issue 

[Balcoin]

Way I see it even if Pipe n Fans are locked to the respected masteries yall are still gonna be crying but it due to Mist and Sand still having a decent amount of water n wind users