Shiki Posted January 29, 2019 Report Share Posted January 29, 2019 20 hours ago, Kamisama said: I never saw a leaf ninja in the show with a fan, so why would they get them ingame? Only makes sense tbh. Like the change, people only got it for the knockback. Now alot of people may lose their fighting power ;> Uchiha Madara and Obito used a fan though.... Madara was literally famous for wielding a fan in battle when he was alive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamisama Posted January 29, 2019 Report Share Posted January 29, 2019 4 hours ago, Shiki said: Uchiha Madara and Obito used a fan though.... Madara was literally famous for wielding a fan in battle when he was alive. Gunbai Uchiwa (軍配団扇, Gunbai Uchiwa, Literally meaning:army arrangement fan), is a non-folding fan, carved from an unique spirit tree from which only ritualistic instruments are made. This Gunbai has been passed down between Uchiha clansmen for generations.[1] ^ a speical fan for uchiha only, not a normal fan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marino Posted January 29, 2019 Report Share Posted January 29, 2019 I feel as though to balance the whole thing, only Sand STR Wind users should be able to wield a fan. Because if the whole Sand village can, it's quite an unfair advantage towards the whole Leaf village. (Coming from a sand ninja). But making it only available Sand STR Wind users would make it more unique, and also balance out the advantage. IMO 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blu Posted January 29, 2019 Report Share Posted January 29, 2019 You're defending the idea that if a ninja from another village picked up a fan some godly power would stop them from being able to learn how to use it. Lmao. Really reaching here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melfina Posted January 29, 2019 Report Share Posted January 29, 2019 Imagine arguing your point as if this is real life and we're not having balance / fairness discussions on a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blu Posted January 29, 2019 Report Share Posted January 29, 2019 That's exactly what I'm arguing for xD. If they're gonna take the fan from players who aren't sand then the fan should have no extra benefits other than damage like any other weapon in the game. If knockback stays then it should be a weapon anyone can use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melfina Posted January 29, 2019 Report Share Posted January 29, 2019 Except it's a weapon FOR A PLAYSTYLE. That's like saying swords shouldn't add extra damage since everyone can equip them??? Are different things for different masteries NOT supposed to be unique? I don't think it should be sand only, I think it should be str wind only. You don't see non weapon masters using a shirokata or any other sword, why should you see non str wind users using a fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiki Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 12 hours ago, Kamisama said: Gunbai Uchiwa (軍配団扇, Gunbai Uchiwa, Literally meaning:army arrangement fan), is a non-folding fan, carved from an unique spirit tree from which only ritualistic instruments are made. This Gunbai has been passed down between Uchiha clansmen for generations.[1] ^ a speical fan for uchiha only, not a normal fan. Doesn't matter if it's special or not, it's still a fan. Which makes your statement about Leaf ninja not wielding a fan in the show, false. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harmony Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 Just add a str req to knockback maybe 50 or more str or something on every fan. Meaning, to wear the fan all you need is 20 str and you'll do a normal wind attack that doesn't knockback, but if you want the knockback effect, then you'll have to waste a lot more stat points in str. It won't really matter if it's Sand/Wind at that point. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mana Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Harmony said: Just add a str req to knockback maybe 50 or more str or something on every fan. Meaning, to wear the fan all you need is 20 str and you'll do a normal wind attack that doesn't knockback, but if you want the knockback effect, then you'll have to waste a lot more stat points in str. It won't really matter if it's Sand/Wind at that point. No. Then WM's like yourself can abuse it. And low level str wind need it for grind early on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harmony Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 34 minutes ago, Yuura said: No. Then WM's like yourself can abuse it. And low level str wind need it for grind early on. Doesn't that mean I can abuse it now since I have the str for it? I have the str req and I don't use fan on my wm and I said keep the str req for fan just add a knockback req. Guess you're right then he should also make it wind fan and sand only so wm wont abuse it like you said. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mana Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 26 minutes ago, Harmony said: Doesn't that mean I can abuse it now since I have the str for it? I have the str req and I don't use fan on my wm and I said keep the str req for fan just add a knockback req. Guess you're right then he should also make it wind fan and sand only so wm wont abuse it like you said. Of course I am right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tameshi Hinode Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 What marino(and others)suggested,seems to be the best way to solve this problem.Make the fan sand exclusive,sure,no problem with that.But make it also wind exclusive. For GF you need taijutsu,but the fan,on the other side,is not limited to a mastery.If elemental users would fight each other,and they both had the same mastery/skill lvl,the player with the fan would have a advantage,that the other player cant make up for.GF will not help me(or anyone else)in any way,as a WM,unless i pick taijutsu as a secondary mastery,and then id have to equip/unequip my sword all the time.Thats why i think fans should just become some kind of sub path for wind.Its not about realism or what works in the anime and what not,its about balancing the game.I know that rory isnt aiming for perfect balance,more like perfect imbalance,so that everyone has his situational use,but in this case,there isnt really a dissadvantage if everyone can equip the fan for the extra interruption,as long as he is from the sand. Another option would be,to add weapons for int users that everyone can use(no swords though,maybe different kunais or something),no matter what village he is from,and that would give you a advantage thats similiar to the fan,so that people who use a fan,will at least have to abandon the other weapons...then it would really be situational instead of simply,,better''. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 This is great news. Leaf forgets there are things to come for them as well. Unfortunately 90% are leaf and can’t think ahead of time. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cirkan Posted February 6, 2019 Report Share Posted February 6, 2019 On 1/28/2019 at 2:34 AM, Blu said: Seems to directly go against the type of game you're trying to make. This isn't a story driven action game. It's a roleplaying game based on the realism of a ninja world I grasped. Saying, "You were born in the leaf village so you physically cant use this weapon." seems weird to me. (This coming from someone that this update wont effect lol) Edit: If you want diversity among villages it shouldn't come from items that anyone can pick up and learn how to use lmao. Maybe it should come from secret jutsu passed down by generations of families within the villages? Blu, I have to agree with Blu and im a sand ninja that uses lighting this just seems like it limit the play style of people more and no real good reason to. If the leaf or mist want a fan let them not like they can use fan jutsu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aghila Mirana Posted February 7, 2019 Report Share Posted February 7, 2019 Good Idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arashi Himitsu Posted February 7, 2019 Report Share Posted February 7, 2019 No point in people arguing about it, it's going to happen if you like it or not. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumaki Posted February 7, 2019 Report Share Posted February 7, 2019 Nobody can take my fan away from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumy Posted February 7, 2019 Report Share Posted February 7, 2019 On 2019-01-30 at 8:30 AM, Light said: This is great news. Leaf forgets there are things to come for them as well. Unfortunately 90% are leaf and can’t think ahead of time. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhxi Posted February 7, 2019 Report Share Posted February 7, 2019 On 1/28/2019 at 4:43 AM, Riley said: Remove the knockback from the 20 str fans and boom easy fix. Like I just agree with this. This is the entire reason people are sacrificing 20 strength just to cancel casts, make them spend 40 instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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